I currently own a 3″ SP101. As much as the stainless job is fun to shoot, a bobbed 2.25 inch SP-101 38 special - made of Ruger titanium castings - would have made for a really neat pocket gun, but now the LCR has come along there's no chance of that. Ruger put very little effort into smoothing out the trigger guard, so you are going to want to give that a lot of attention. And it has to be true if it’s on the internet, right? Having got a new Ruger SP 101 357 Mag the trigger in both single and double action was very gritty. just picked up a barely used SP101 .357… previous owner most likely thought it was defective, as i found that one chamber was ‘tight,’ resulting in sluggish almost-lockup after a dozen speedloader rounds in a range session (due to heat and carbon buildup) – cleaned up the wheelgun at the bench and measured the gap using a feeler guage – four chambers were w/in spec (.004-.008″), while one was .004″ or less-than-a-hair less… a quick gentle stone and recheck-cycle and the problem was solved – SP101s have close tolerances, especially when new, but won’t get ‘loose’ like Smiths – which i will never purchase new due to the insipid lock on nearly all models. In a self defense situation I wouldn’t hesitate to use DA at 10 or maybe 15 yards, but I’d probably go for SA passed that. ð. I will give Ruger a plus for putting rubber grips on with plastic side panels. Even with full power 180s my buddy's SP101 was more pleasant to shoot than my long-suffering S&W M49 Bodyguard is with 158 gr +P. ð I can shoot the XD very accurately with both hands, or either one alone. I love watching people argue over which is best; Ruger or S&W. The man I had to shoot was probably less than ten feet away… I’m alive because I had the shotgun pointed at him already. A custom Altamont hardwood grip with stippled and checkered sides permits an ideal grip for any shooting environment. I actually agree with this–if you have the time, you can train most anyone to use most any handgun efficiently (note “most”, not “any and all”). I keep it to show students the difference, and very few ever want to shoot a second round. And this is how they ride in the DeSantis Super Fly pocket holster and a Bianchi outside the waistband belt holster. Hello, I'm thinking about getting a trigger job done on my SP101 8-shot 22lr. I do not find the extra weight to be a hinderance in concealed carry, all day long carry. hammer spring & trigger return spring. Buy what you want, but if you want the best, buy Ruger. I buy Smiths because they don’t require me to do the work that the factory should have. and the Hogue monogrip, I left the piece as is and not turn it into a S&W. That’s not much, but depending on how you’re carrying the gun, a quarter inch could be the difference between being completely concealed and a gun that prints … While brushed stainless steel is good for everyday abuse because it hides scratches, we’re not talking about a Viking’s battle axe anymore. (8 lbs Main spring) Please note that if the trigger spring isn’t strong enough the trigger will feel gritty. But the long trigger pull of this SP101 was lighter than expected at 10-lb. http://www.guns.com/2015/10/07/is-the-357-magnum-enough-for-deer-hunting/. Sometimes it’s nice to carry a little class with some flash. You better let Clint handle that one. It was S&W that caved to the Clinton Administration, not Ruger–I have a ton of Rugers & not one has ever needed any work on it. ð. Do bastard files do the same thing? I own both the sp101 model 5771 in 357 and a S&W M&P Shield Performance Center in .40SW. Can’t do that with the revolver because my hand is just too small and the trigger pull is just too much to keep it consistently on target. (9 lbs Trigger spring) “If youâre looking for a gun to introduce a girlfriend, wife, or all-around novice into the world of firearms, the SP101 is a perfect choice (or any other double action revolver for that matter).”. An immeasurably heavy trigger pull. Uninstalled it and am really really pleased with the standard grip on the gun. The SP101 is not a pistol, it’s a revolver. 38 practice ammo feels like .22lr. A reduced power spring set will bring the trigger pull way down but … I haven't been visiting much in the last few months because I truly hated the design changes you had made to the site so long ago. Did I understand from one of the previous comments, that the .327cal version is discontinued ? 8-oz. it will. I LOVE my Ruger revolver. If you are an experienced shooter and are not afraid to get your hands dirty, then there is a lot that can be done with this revolver. Carry Practice with .38s and duty carry magnums. That being said, whenever firing Remington or Speer I never get a jam. Note the orientation of the hammer strut so you don't put it in backward during reassembly. The areas to really pay attention to are the front of the barrel lug, under the muzzle, and the trigger guard. Then the heavily modified “girl’s gun” gets near perfect marks. I’m not a woman, but I understand you put the long strap across your body to make it harder for the purse snatcher (yes, I also know about cutting the strap with a knife, etc, but if a bad guy gets close enough to you to be able to pull and use a knife–well, you will be lucky if all that happens is your purse gets snatched, whatever may be in it). Glad you finally found your carry piece. Having got a new Ruger SP 101 357 Mag the trigger in both single and double action was very gritty. If you’re a dude carrying this revolver, then you’ve got to stay true to the heritage and go with a leather OWB holster. The real women who read here dont need your saving. The SP101 spring is rated at 14 pounds, the S&W at 8.5. Here's my new baby: [URL=http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/NotoriousAPP/media/NotoriousAPPGeminiCustomSP101-edited_zpsbc368dfc.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag291/NotoriousAPP/NotoriousAPPGeminiCustomSP101-edited_zpsbc368dfc.jpg[/IMG][/URL]. The blued SP101 exhibited an 11 lbs. Does it bother anyone else that he keeps referring to a revolver as a pistol? What I have found is that if the hand isn't making full contact with the grip it is bad for accuracy, recoil control and pain management. My guess is ‘this is what an sp101 can be with a little work’ review. Just do a search for Ruger SP101 grips and they will turn up. Although the SP101's trigger is smooth it's still relatively heavy if you're used to a lighter semi-auto pistol trigger pull. “…the best way I would recommend to carry this gun would be in a small pocket book, with an extremely long and strong strap…”. A final and wonderful observation about these revolvers is, that instead of being painful, they are really fun to shoot and exceeded my expectation for accuracy! One tough snubbie, although I haven’t dragged (just say no to “drug”) it down a gravel road, I’m sure it will stand up to just about anything. I would buy it all over again. And I guarantee that one well aimed hit at distance will mean a whole lot more to Mr. Bad Guy than waiting to smell his bad breath and touch his belly. Better late than never. And: does anyone know from experience where the perfect compromise is between the weight of the trigger return spring and hammer spring that will yield a good trigger pull with 100% reliability ? S&W sacrificed durability for the light weight alloys they’re using. Either way, save your breath, Ryan. I think you know where this is going. The above target shows 5 rounds of Winchester PDX 1 Defender +P 130 Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point ammo fired at 21 feet. So, was the extra work I had done on the SP101 worth it and how much did it cost? Ruger manufacturers a Double Action Only version with a bobbed hammer in a 2.25 inch barrel so that is what I procured. If you are new to shooting it’s easy to learn with and easy to shoot both .38 and .357. Cocking the hammer for single-action shots dropped the pull weight … After doing a complete trigger job (no shims) smooth and polished the inside of the frame. We won’t even let the women thumbcock the revos they do try out, not unless they’re so beset with physical issues that they simply can’t shoot any other handgun any other way. You can find several tutorials online that show how to disassemble the SP101 to replace the springs. I smoothed and polished my SP 101 and changed the mainspring and trigger return spring now it's my favorite carry gun. On a revolver you simply look at it and you can see the rims of the cases. Is it OK to use files on stainless? I have about 10 hrs of work in my SP 101 and would have loved it had someone told me to up the power on the trigger spring. I love both of them but if I had to choose one to carry it would be the S&W Shield, simply because of the inherent advantages to a semi-auto, mainly the larger capacity and quick reloading of a spare magazine. You can get them in rubber or wood. S&W itself introduced the idea when it suggested using .38s for practice and .357s for duty to lengthen the life of their handguns. I am well-armed with either. Have about 500 rounds through it and have never had any light strike issue. I think you meant 21 feet. Start by knocking off all of the square corners with the round and flat files. They come from Thailand. Shooting We- my extremely competent female partner (not a regular instructor, but a USPSA well-known) put on a lot of women’s classes. This method takes the trigger pull down to around 4.7 lbs. I thought this is the way it should have come from the factory when I got it. I love the grip as well. The “I can’t DO that” attitude comes on for reasons not always connected to physical capabilities. Grips that fill and fit my hand are crucial. hammer spring, you run the risk of having a light primer strike on ammo with hard primers. I sent mine back to the factory (I had never fired it.) A k frame modded to use .357 magnum rounds. Hiking in hog or cougar country it's loaded with hollow points or JSPs. To carry this revolver daily, buy a high quality holster that fits both your body and the gun , and plan on carrying a couple of speedloaders or speed strips. By robust, I mean nearly indestructible. It fits my hand. They offer several options for their trigger pull work. That automatic memory will kick in under stress in a micro second. You'll be paying at least $200-$250 just for the trigger job and fiber optic sights, and the porting does make a difference in recoil control. At that distance, sight accuracy becomes a moot point because point shooting is more than likely what will be happening in such a high stress scenario. Ruger…S&W…get them both and enjoy life!!! But that’s paper, put a gun in his hand and each one of us will be lucky to hit your target at 10 yards when bullets are flying. Have about 500 rounds through it and have never had any light strike issue. With products made in America, Ruger offers consumers almost 800 variations of more than 40 product lines. Got them off of ebay. .357 magnum. S&W’s, with their light weight scandium alloys, need extra care, maintenance, and inspection. My other gun is a Ruger LCRx 38 Spl +P with 3″ barrel. Custom Ruger SP101 Accessories by Combat Veterans! It could be easier. I have small hands. Practical sight radius is not there. But if you’ve got arthritis or can’t handle the recoil (or DA pull) for whatever reason, the .357 snubby is probably not your best choice. Both are good guns. I’ve known people that, in some cases, bought a revolver as their only gun decades ago. It will be the last to be seized by the KKKalifornistas in Sackatomatos, so being simple and durable is good for long term storage too. Since she off body carries the weight isn’t an issue. I tried Hogue grips: too bulky. For more than 70 years, Ruger has been a model of corporate and community responsibility. I enjoyed your review. Too bulky. No other hand gun round has surpassed the effectiveness of this round not even the mighty 357 sig. For some reason the grips on S&W's J frames never fit my hand be it their stock wooden grip, their stock rubber grip, a Hogue Monogrip, or their new ones by DeSantis. 9mm Luger I mentioned earlier, I think a revolver is an excellent weapon to teach a Person on the fence about gun rights about guns. A direct result of the SP101 being such a great little wheel gun. There are times when women need to defend themselves from terrible people who want to do terrible things to them. They replaced that one entirely. I would like to add another Ruger in 327 Federal in the future, the LCRx, I like the fact of being able to use other 32 valiber ammo in these revolvers. The first stop is the grip. Clint’s enemies also had a habit of dropping dead the instant the bullets struck them, which might be a little optimistic for you and me. Maybe he was resorting to hyperbole. With products made in America, Ruger offers consumers almost 800 variations of more than 40 product lines. With a revolver, your shots are more critical, as your ammo count is less. Mine also wears a Hogue grip and a little red lipstick on the front sight. Ruger replaced the cylinder, “repaired the J-spot” (whatever that is), test fired it, reset the timing, proofed it, and sent it back within a week. My question is why don’t they offer a blued finish any longer. Yes, it is a stupid myth that women can’t shoot anything but a revolver. Last month I bought a brand new blue SP101 .357, and one of my cylinder chambers was bored too small also. Way back there are revolvers. Additionally they fit my hand very well with no gaps between hand and grip and the textured synthetic grips have a better "feel" to them than the standard Ruger grips. The first one I had purchased used and would start locking up after about 15 rounds. After this install, the Double Action trigger pull was Much Better, and the Single Action Trigger Pull Dropped to a Very Smooth Consistent 3 1/2 Pounds! The grip on the LCRx 3″ is not my favorite. I usually shoot SA though. The ladies with the long, fancy fingernails also have problems sometimes, but they may just have to decide if they want to shoot or grow plastic claws. Rugers are fine revolvers, strong and reliable. In my opinion, yes it was. For instance when I first got my wife into shooting I caught her forgetting to remove the magazine before checking the chamber (thereby loading a round into the chamber while believing the chamber was empty). It was my first carry gun. you can still feel where the trigger reset engages on the release of the trigger but isn’t offensive at all. and extensive polishing of all the internals. The trigger pull is much more difficult DA on the revolver, and the recoil- even with .38sp – is more pronounced. Once you learn to tame the beastly pull weight you can manage some pretty sweet shots. Even with all the shooting I do, after ten years I am much more accurate and comfortable with the XD. I was bit by a copperhead last year and will carry this pistol loaded with that every minute that I leave my house and walk into the woods. Yes we did. Maybe not a big deal with a 9mm but helps with the 40. I do wish the near perfect SP could load six 38/357 rounds. But first, h. ere's a quick comparison of the S&W 637 and the 2.25 inch and 3 inch barreled Rugers: Let's start with the grips. Between me and the mrs we have 686’s, GP100’s, sp101’s in various sizes, and a few S&W air weights and 2 Security Sixes. Installing the Hogue Monogrip completely changes the way this gun fires for the better. Keep in mind, short barreled revolvers are really for typical defensive gun uses where the contact distance is seven yards or closer. Unfortunately, the Hogue makes the pistol a bit on the large side for pocket carry even though the weight doesn't bother me at all. And very accurate and fine triggers. The above target shows 10 rounds of Magtech 158 grain FMJ ammo fired at 21 yards. I love to carry it TOO… and it is the only “jewelry” I ever wear. Fancy guns are like anything else fancy-nice to look at, but a pain to use; I will take functional beauty any day.Yes, I have shot many Smiths and was not impressed with any of them-none had triggers any better than any of my Rugers. And apparently this gun is so bad that you have to modify it to make it acceptable yet it still gets good marks? I have given away more than 8,000 of these e-books, and would especially love to give it to every woman on the planet. Loved the feel and the almost no trigger pull in the single action. I’m not prejudiced against the round guns. adage it that the small .38 special revolvers are to be carried a lot and shot a little but in today's litigious society any handgun I carry needs to be backed up with a lot of practice. I’d rather have the accuracy, and have it comfortable enough to fire so I’m happy to practice with it. 19s. I live half way between the country and the city. Small grips. The SP101 is pretty well set up right out of the box but it can be made a little better. Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc. is one of the nation's leading manufacturers of rugged, reliable firearms for the commercial sporting market. @ Drew – I have heard if you want something nearly robust as a Ruger and more refined then a S&W, get a Colt revolver. I went from an 8 lbs trigger spring to a 9 lbs spring and am very pleased. You sound like social justice warrior troll or white-knighter looking for fainting progtard chicks to rescue. Then you can stand up and still have a round (or two) to make sure. In both cases cleaning the front of the cylinder and the forcing cone would ‘solve’ the issue temporarily. All gun owners have room in their safe for a Ruger revolver. Not a damn thing. I shoot any semi-auto better than a snubby(had a Taurus85). I’m a woman. A lot. The trigger pull on my SP101 even after replacing the springs is still fairly heavy. And I would definitely pick a Performance Center over a regular shield, for the $100 or so more that you pay the difference is totally worth it. I’m not talking about the polymer Ruger LCR when I say this. 4 oz. I had been holding onto a factory spurless hammer for a number of years, that I had acquired through evil-bay, and it dropped right in, resulting in an even sweeter trigger pull. I have the SP101 with a 4.2″ barrel. Fun to shoot but too bulky and heavy compared to any semi or sub compact at half thecweight and twice the capacity. Frankly, Ruger’s gun control sins are much less than that, and they were over with Bill Ruger’s death. Thank you for checking out my videos & don't forget to SUBSCRIBE!!! Either way, it’s very easy to shoot the SP101. Insert a paper clip or the pin from behind the grip panel into the pin hole at the bottom end of the hammer strut. 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